Rough ride?

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Maz66
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Post by Maz66 »

Glen Best wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:13 pm Could it be down to the tyres fitted?
Here are some user reviews which are not favourable
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Bridge ... za-001.htm
Could well be, and I had thought of that but don’t really want the cost of replacing them. I’ve sort of got used to the ride now but as and when tyres need replacing will get better ones.

karltk1
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Post by karltk1 »

Can be a bit crazy but nothing horrendous. I test drove a Skoda eniaq top spec and that was really bad over tough road and bumbs etc. But it drive nice apart from that.
Glen Best
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Post by Glen Best »

Im now 3 weeks in with the realization that the Ariya has a rough ride. Ive just had to reset my brain as to what a car should feel like.
When watching reviews on youtube I now listen in particular for mention of ride quality, and guess what its avoided by most reviewers Jonny Smith did mention ride when doing Ioniq6 I noted.
It seems that these battery chassis platforms which are 500kg heavier than ICE car, have harder EV specific tyres. I imagine the chassis that encases the battery has to be structurally very stiff so as not to damage the battery with flex! To mitigate that tyres and suspension have to be top notch and maybe car manufacturers just are not there yet. Makes me question what is Tesla ride like?
I look forward to the day when a youtuber explains why EV's tend to be a harsher ride.
karltk1
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Post by karltk1 »

Tesla model y and 3 are notorious for a hard ride. But they have improved the dynamics recently. That said the model y I drove in aug was perfectly ok. Just a tad noisy in the cabin.
Milkfloat
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Post by Milkfloat »

Well, when you say EV's weigh more than ICE cars that is true as a generalisation but it needs some qualification. First, what does an Ariya actually weigh? Bjorn Nyland weighed the 63kWh Advance at 2040 but that included himself and who knows what paraphernalia. He certainly carries computers and Ecoflow Delta Max & booster worth ca. 50kg. So, perhaps 1910kg unladen weight. Audi Q5 at 1805 kg, Ford Kuga PHEV 1844 kg and Evoque D200 at 1866 kg. They all ride well and I can personally confirm that the Evoque PHEV at 2082 kg rides really well. So, I'm sure it's not weight or tyres. Rather, it is suspension components, dimensions and settings. I have the lightest Ariya possible to specify and 90% of the time it is fine. It gets upset on certain poor surfaces and the strange pitching screams suspension/dampers to me.
Mike
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Post by Mike »

I’ve got a 2020 model 3 and it’s like riding on a skateboard, anything other than a smooth A road or motorway and it’s not very enjoyable . The Ariya I tested was far better.
Ariya 87k advance , formerly a leaf 40k owner .
Glen Best
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Post by Glen Best »

In reply to Milkfloat, I agree with your above comment I was simply referring to my experience though had not specifically said that (quick post at work).
> It gets upset on certain poor surfaces and the strange pitching screams suspension/dampers to me.
Yes that sums up my experience in the 87kwh 2100kg evolve.
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Post by Mike »

Just dragging this thread back .
I now have my 87k Ariya and I don’t have any issues with a rough ride (far from it ) but what I have noticed is it swaying or pitching at the very top of the suspension.
For example creeping in traffic when I stop the car pitches back and forth a few times creating a see saw effect, does anyone else have this ?
It feels quite solid at more speed even over speed bumps etc .
It’s just at really low speed !
Ariya 87k advance , formerly a leaf 40k owner .
Milkfloat
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Post by Milkfloat »

I think a lot of the perspective comes from inevitable comparison with the car you drove most before coming to the Ariya. If you came from a good riding saloon such as an XF Jag, you will have one view but if you came from something like a Hyundai Santa Fe, you will have another. I do think the dampers aren't quite right though and that is what you observe Mike. Sometimes, I fail to hold the brake down for the second required to set Auto-hold so the brake releases followed by my instant re-application. The rocking is horrible and is, I think, the extreme example of the point you make Mike.
Mike
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Post by Mike »

I’ve currently got a Tesla m3 and do come from a driving life of Octavia vrs and golf gti so yes these are a totally different type/handling vehicles .
But I also drive medium sized vans at work and have had two leafs and not experienced a rock like you get in the Ariya before.
Maybe I need to adjust my in traffic driving style to accommodate , to me it seems like every time you come to stop though.
I’m going to mention it to the dealer though I doubt there’s much they will/can do .
I feel like if the very top part of the suspension travel was firmed slightly it would be a great improvement.
Thanks for the reply
Ariya 87k advance , formerly a leaf 40k owner .
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